Konica c6501 vs Xerox docucolor 260

[UberTech]

If you asked me a year ago who was better on the production end, I would say KM..and I even said on several occasions that KM had the largest portfolio in the digital press market

So your a blatant liar, jumped ship to spread more blatant lies. You suffer from first postitus. The Vendor on Vendor smack down has been done to death and I think you'll find everyone is tired of it no matter how much you think you might know.

Please mature quickly and offer constructive unbiased information on your 'current' vendor.

[GregNac19]

So your a blatant liar, jumped ship to spread more blatant lies. You suffer from first postitus. The Vendor on Vendor smack down has been done to death and I think you'll find everyone is tired of it no matter how much you think you might know.

Please mature quickly and offer constructive unbiased information on your 'current' vendor.

It is funny how you can't talk bad about KM. You must be a liar. I have never worked for KM. So Ubertech, is any of what he said true about the Fiery?

[rjb]

We have a 250 and a 6501 and the color is comparable to some degree but we have the creo and can set the color to match just about anything. The major difference is the price of the machines, click charges, monthly service charge and the KM back up on coated text capability is great.

[aqa-man]

the Oce equivalent is the 665 (its a badged konica, exact same);
You can also buy direct from Konica, you get to have support from the top production Print guys - excellent indeed, far more knowledgable than any dealer engineers.
We have the 6501 full kit with Creo; the Fiery is less tricky to learn.
You can also buy the kit from almost anywhere, but the support is where is really at, if you are really in the business.

[rjb]

I agree.... good support is priceless.

[UberTech]

It is funny how you can't talk bad about KM. You must be a liar. I have never worked for KM. So Ubertech, is any of what he said true about the Fiery?

I have no idea what the 'Fiery' issue is to be honest. Logic would say that of the 'the problem' is on the fiery and not the creo then it can't be a KM problem....can it? IMHO Creo have been a bit more pro-active when it comes to get things fixed although Fiery as of late have really raised there game.

He openly stated he lied while at KM. I think it's best for everyone that no one bashs other compeditors as it just leaves a bad taste in the mouths of our customers.

[GregNac19]

I have no idea what the 'Fiery' issue is to be honest. Logic would say that of the 'the problem' is on the fiery and not the creo then it can't be a KM problem....can it? IMHO Creo have been a bit more pro-active when it comes to get things fixed although Fiery as of late have really raised there game.

He openly stated he lied while at KM. I think it's best for everyone that no one bashs other compeditors as it just leaves a bad taste in the mouths of our customers.

I agree. Everyone wants to blame the equipment and never Fiery. I would have to say that both must be a fault some. I know updates happen all the time but I will say maybe Konica Minolta needs to pay Fiery a little more money. I usually don't have fiery problems with our machines that aren't quickly resolved. Keep in mind our service is linked with a database that every technician can access and find answers to solutions to almost all problems because someone else has already dealt with the situation. Most cases.

By the way this forum says Konica is spelled wrong. You should talk to someone about this.

[GusG]

By the way this forum says Konica is spelled wrong. You should talk to someone about this.

When we only had Konica Bizhubs we had a guy tending them and my staff gave him the nickname "Konica". He wasn't very interested in his job and began making some silly mistakes so he was renamed "Comica".

[LugNut]

I am close to signing a deal with the local small town dealer for an X - DC260 with creo, oversized HiCap feeder, and professional or light prod. finisher. You guys have shed some good light on many issues but there isn't much that addresses the 260 question of this forum. You guys mostly discussed the 700 which does not seem worth the $ leap for us right now. I have not seriously considered a KM 6500, is the price comparable for a KM with similar features and what would be the pros and cons of the 260 vs 6500. We are a small print shop with a Canon IRC-3200 running only 7000 color per month atm, but we hope to quickly double and then triple that volume with our next purchase.
PS can anyone help me decide about the light production finisher and does the decurler feature help significantly to justify the additional cost?

[Craig]

Decurler's are da bomb! It's so much easier finishing a flat sheet than one that us U shaped. Whatever decision you go with, just make sure it's something you can grow with!