Xerox Igen Speeds

[Internal_R&D_Analyst]

Here is a novel approach, why not make a Super iGen by increasing the sheet size to 19 x 25! That would allow 4 up 8.5 x 11 as well as 2 up 11 x 17, and make toner devices even more competitive with the DI's or smaller format offsets. Keeping the same speed of the press, you just doubled the productivity.

That's a good one Craig,

As I have been told by most of the manufacturers many people propose this but there are several difficulties with developing a device like this for some reason. I know one is that it is not a platform modification but a complete new development and build because of the paper size. Maybe now that Q Press showed a B2 toner device at Drupa this will get the others going on developing this. One note the press was deathly slow for the full B2 size, but it did work. Kind of reminded me of the first indigo's with the one feeder in and one stacker out, maybe HP can pick them up too.

[smatros]

Here is a novel approach, why not make a Super iGen by increasing the sheet size to 19 x 25! That would allow 4 up 8.5 x 11 as well as 2 up 11 x 17, and make toner devices even more competitive with the DI's or smaller format offsets. Keeping the same speed of the press, you just doubled the productivity.

And increased the marketing potential as well, especially for posters.

[Carl Dunaway]

Here is a novel approach, why not make a Super iGen by increasing the sheet size to 19 x 25! That would allow 4 up 8.5 x 11 as well as 2 up 11 x 17, and make toner devices even more competitive with the DI's or smaller format offsets. Keeping the same speed of the press, you just doubled the productivity.

The Digital Color Press you are describing is a Xeikon. It can image 19 x unlimited length and includes a built in sheeter allowing you to produce the 19x25 sheet you described. It's 1200 dpi toner based and comparable output to iGen. Potentially much faster check out their website for exact throughput numbers.

[Internal_R&D_Analyst]

It's only faster if you are running 2 sides and it is text weight, the Xeikon slows down the higher the gsm.

Also if you are running a lot of different stocks it would be faster to use a sheetfed device with multiple drawers then having to change a roll all day.

[rcm355]

Here is a novel approach, why not make a Super iGen by increasing the sheet size to 19 x 25! That would allow 4 up 8.5 x 11 as well as 2 up 11 x 17, and make toner devices even more competitive with the DI's or smaller format offsets. Keeping the same speed of the press, you just doubled the productivity.

Probably because that makes too much sense. It is very obvious there are NO entrepreneurs working in the corporate world these days.

[Carl Dunaway]

It's only faster if you are running 2 sides and it is text weight, the Xeikon slows down the higher the gsm.

Also if you are running a lot of different stocks it would be faster to use a sheetfed device with multiple drawers then having to change a roll all day.

Actually the Xeikon can match iGen speeds up to 300gsm. I won't try to debate the web verses sheet change over times because obviously the Xeikon is designed for high volume. But if you are running 10,000 sheets spending 10-15 minutes splicing a roll is a small price to pay to eliminate paper jams and the need to touch paper for the rest of the day.

[Mark]

Xerox had a big digital in the 70's see an article about it in graphic arts online Feb 2009 p46 techwatch.

GAM - Olive ActiveMagazine

[Craig]

Xerox had a big digital in the 70's see an article about it in graphic arts online Feb 2009 p46 techwatch.

GAM - Olive ActiveMagazine

That was neat, if they could match the size with today's technology..... I wonder!