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    Default km6500/01 - NCR

    Anyone running ncr on a Konica-Minolta 6500 or 6501? Sales guy says it can run it.

    How does the mahcine handle coated text / coated cover? Duplex these?

    Thanks.

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    We tried and it on our KM 6500 and it made a real mess. Pages are stuck together with static? and the tacky residue from the ncr coating made it jam. Ended up running the job litho.

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    If you haven't yet, you should try using digital NCR paper, litho NCR paper may cause you problems. If you are trying to use something like a 70gsm litho stock then I think you will probably be SOL even if you have the KM high cap trays and pre-heater.

    We mostly litho NCR paper, but I know the guys have run short NCR jobs digitally on both our Xerox and Konica machines. It's a PITA if you are numbering at the same time and it jams, but I know they've done quite a bit of work on Xerox NCR and Giroform laser.

    I know that we've had plenty of grief over the years with Xerox B&W and colour machines jamming on NCR and it really is down to finding a good digital NCR paper that suits the machine.

    BTW, there is loads of info on the 6501 and coated stock on this forum, just search for it to save repetition.

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    As I told by Konica technical support that we cant run NCR on Knonica 6500. But if someont has tried litho NCR successfully, please send me their website link. Thanks in advance.

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    I have ran litho ncr with no problems, the only thing i would say thay is comes out very wavy and in my case if your making duplicate or trip. books they dont look great cause there not flat

    anyone else had this problem

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    Default No problem with Appleton NCR

    We just ran a batch (1,000 sheets) of 2 part NCR 11x17 litho wt. with our Canon IR7095. No problem at all. Sheets came out flat and not problem with padding...

    It was our first try. So far so good....

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    You need to run it with a RU unit and have curl reform set to DOWN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UberTech View Post
    You need to run it with a RU unit and have curl reform set to DOWN.
    Can i add a ru unit to my 6501 with the small booklet finisher unit? If so what is the costing for it?

    Is it healthy to run litho grade ncr on the km or should i stick to digital grade

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klew View Post
    Can i add a ru unit to my 6501 with the small booklet finisher unit? If so what is the costing for it?

    Is it healthy to run litho grade ncr on the km or should i stick to digital grade

    thanks
    Unfortunately the RU unit available only when you use the production inline finishing options. That being the SD506, FS521, FS-503 or the GBC Punch Kit.

    I would also strongly recommend sticking to the digital grade NCR paper.

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    Try running it Letter R vs Letter, we have better results on our MP9000 that way. Also have found the Nekoosa brand (litho not digital) runs the best on that machine.


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