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    Default Teaching Intro to Publishing

    Hey hey first post! So in addition to slaving at prepress, I con unwitting students into selling their souls to the b1tch goddess that is prepress.

    Any how, I got stuck teaching Intro to Publishing. Basically this course is split into two sections; Introduction to the Macintosh and Intro to Publisher on the PC. Yeah I know, odd mix right? Sooo.... I guess my question is what things should I really pound into their heads?

    My intial thoughts are:
    Stressing Organization
    Folder Structure
    Naming Conventions
    Collecting Files
    Basic troubleshooting on the Mac (force quit and the like)
    RGB vs CMYK (Prolly won't get much into Color Management)
    Resolution
    The Joy and Pain of fonts

    Any thing else come to mind as important topics?
    Have any good links to basic info on Macs and prepress in general?

    Thanks

    Edited by: Angstboy on Sep 6, 2007 8:37 AM

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    Default Re: Teaching Intro to Publishing

    This could probably be boiled down to the point that lay people could be taught the basic material:

    http://americanprinter.com/mag/printing_best_pdfs/

    Good luck with Publisher, since they probably won't let you teach them not to use it.

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    Default Re: Teaching Intro to Publishing

    you might want to go to a bookstore and check out both the intro to publisher and intro to OS X books, see what topics they cover..that could give you a good outline of what needs to be covered for beginners.

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    I like this site;

    Direct2Time

    if you click on a title (like People Magazine for example) and then click on "PDF Guide" item, this site will help you with settings that People magazine requires for anyone who wants to submit an ad to that magazine - if you can explain why and what all that means, this would be useful for anyone who need to convert their application file into a 'print ready PDF"

    example;

    People: PDF Guide - Direct2Time

    for an overview of what PDF/X is (and why they should care)

    An Introduction to PDF/X by Michael Jahn (Book) in Computers & Internet

    (or, if you want to download and print this yourself)

    Introduction to PDF/X

    Good luck !

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    To Angstboy

    You might rummage around this site for ideas:

    Quality In Print

    best, gordon p

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    Run, it's a Zombie Thread!!!!!!

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    might also be worth giving students a little grounding in the print process too, taking them to a local print shop so they know how it all works too.. and perhaps gain a better understanding of the system as a whole not just their niche.. definately cant hurt..
    Just get on with it. Its as simple as that.

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    totally agree gaz. Saves a huge amount of time when the prepress guys know the whys and what fors through and through, and deliver useable plates all the time.

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    Publisher? Why Publisher and not InDesign or Quark at least?

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    Convince the school to buy a few copies of InDesign for Windows. Publisher is a nightmare, really isn't intended for professional print in my opinion (I'm certain most would agree). We won't even accept a Publisher file. I realize most commercial shops don't always have the ability to refuse native Publisher files though.
    We print education and trade-speciality books where I work. Here are some rough stats for you. 90% of what we receive is PDF supplied. 90% of "all" supplied work originates on a Mac. 60% of "all" work is built within InDesign. 85% of "new" work is built within InDesign (we print a lot of reprints). Simply put, QuarkXPress has been taken over by InDesign. We see about two to four native application jobs that require a Windows box (InDesign or Quark). We output between 10,000 - 15,000 plates per week, so the stats above give you an idea of what the book industry is using. Obviously commercial is more mixed. I can't speak for packaging, but would imagine Illustrator would rule there.
    We've had one job that originated within Publisher within the last three or four years. After one book we convinced them to purchase InDesign. Wow, did that make their final files miles cleaner and easier to manage—afterwards, the customer was very pleased with this decision as well.


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