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  1. 12-16-2009, 01:54 PM #1
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    Default Harlequin vs. Illustrator?

    We run two Esko Flowdrive workflows (v5.2) with Harlequin rips under the hood (don't know the version but I'm guessing quite old). We use pre-separated pdfs in our impositions, imposed using Preps.

    As a company, we have begun moving over to Illustrator CS4 from Freehand. We are finding however that jobs are taking huge amounts of time to rip. Literally hours and hours. This is a situation we never encountered when using Freehand. Is Illustrator vector art (when converted to postscript and then PDF) more complex than Freehand? We're left wondering if the Adobe upgrade path has overtaken the capabilities of the Harlequin.

    Has anyone else encountered such an issue?
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  2. 12-16-2009, 04:32 PM #2
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    Why postscript to pdf. Why not save as a pdf from Illy?
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  3. 12-17-2009, 01:06 AM #3
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    Just a legacy of what we've always done. Workflow started out donkeys' years ago as pre-separated postscript workflow.
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  4. 12-17-2009, 03:05 AM #4
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    You need to upgrade your rip.
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  5. 12-17-2009, 03:14 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    You need to upgrade your rip.
    To what? And why?
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  6. 12-17-2009, 03:31 AM #6
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    To a newer rip version. Your rip is HQ 5.2, it does not handle properly CS4 files, and it's slow, indeed.
    Latest version of HQ I saw from Esko is 7.0, but probably they have 8.x too.
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  7. 12-17-2009, 03:35 AM #7
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    Thanks, Zombie.
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  8. 12-17-2009, 10:24 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by zombie View Post
    ... Latest version of HQ I saw from Esko is 7.0, but probably they have 8.x too.
    Wrong. Esko 7 is not HQ based.(It's Flexrip and it's CPSI or Adobe PDF Print Engine based)
    Latest FlowDrive version is 5.x. No any software upgrade available for FlowDrive.

    Try lower PDF versions for speed ripping in FlowDrive.

    Edit: HQ and FlowDrive verisons are different. FlowDrive 5.2 is not mean HQ 5.2
    Last edited by Gramshi; 12-17-2009 at 10:57 AM.
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  9. 12-17-2009, 10:35 AM #9
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    Esko's Flowdrive is built around Harlequin. As zombie said an upgrade is a must, version 8.1 has an almost same look and feel but is light years ahead from ver.5.
    I have no difficulties processing any sort of PDF files thrown at my harlequin (other than Esko) even with transparencies, at least once they pass preflight. Latest quark, cs4, you name it.
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  10. 12-17-2009, 11:12 AM #10
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    @maxon and @zombie
    Please give us a web link for FlowDrive version 7 or 8.
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