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    I believe that Kodak would really shut it all down. When they bought Creo they killed a lot of Scitex/Creo products right out of the gate. Also their services and respect to the customer went to the bottom of the barrel. Since they treated us so bad with support/services (NO SUPPORT/POOR SUPPORT) we will never use them again. And we are a 45M plus a year printer that keeps growing and expanding our services even in a lagging economy.

    But thats just one companies 2 cents worth

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonbracken View Post
    [SNIP]We have announced to employees that we will consolidate global product development for Unified Workflow at our site in Israel, and we will focus our customer technical support and marketing operations at our Vancouver site. [SNIP]
    This was a very difficult decision because it involves employment reductions. The decision was difficult and not in any way based on the performance of our employees in Vancouver, which has been excellent. It was simply based on an analysis of a number of factors, as well as synergies and support infrastructure at the respective sites, in concert with the anticipated future direction of the business.
    What BS.
    Companies say that the employees are their main asset - but at the end of the day cheaper labour - i.e. Israeli, or Chinese (where my understanding is that some of the Prinergy development will now take place), or whomever - is the determining factor. Excellence of performance by the Vancouver (and Victoria) employees, as you characterize their contribution, did not save anyone their jobs. Performance means nothing. Why not just say so. The Israelis are cheaper than Canadian employees, and if you can find cheaper labour elsewhere then that's where you'll go next and the Israelis will be out of work next.
    When the going gets tough, it seems that the Kodak response is to trim budgets, get conservative, and efficiently track the shrinking revenue while laying people off, likely right into bankruptcy.

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    Default 2 week layoff notice for everybody not true...

    there will be two rounds of layoffs. One at the end of November, and one at the end of January. A team from Israel will be arriving next week for two weeks of knowledge transfer. That was the origin of the rumour.

    more details posted on the blog Prinergy is Dead | Prepress Pilgrim

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    2 weeks to learn years of knowledge? Sounds about right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hansman View Post
    ????????
    I doubt they are going to let thousand's of users out there sink
    Gee I seem to remember a workflow called Brisque that got similar treatment from Kodak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    Gee I seem to remember a workflow called Brisque that got similar treatment from Kodak.
    Good point........
    I went through that.
    We switched over to Rampage at the time.
    Then Prinergy came out >
    People should just breathe deep
    You know something else will replace Prinergy
    I am still missing my Scitex Prisma from 1991!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hansman View Post
    Good point........
    I am still missing my Scitex Prisma from 1991!
    We still have ours in a back room! And it works!

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    if prinergy is dead then where we will go? kodak's support for prinergy was poor. they should manage it more professionally...

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    Apparently Prinergy/InSite software development goes to China where, among other things, CtP is manufactured and colour software written. Software testing will go to Israel.

    I imagine will be quite a logistics issue for the offices in N.A. to manage across such vastly varied time zones. Especially with Israel where, if I'm not mistaken, not only is there a significant time zone difference, but a weekend difference as well (Friday Saturday rather than Saturday Sunday), and more religious holidays to boot.

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    If software testing goes to Israel then muslim countries will not be able to communicate. This will be a wrong idea for Kodak. Rather they can transfer it to India becoz India is now very developed in software development.... and their overall cost will be cheaper. Support may be faster...


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