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    Bondmaster is offline Member
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    Yes I agree, I would like to hear from more on the subject, to help companies such as ours to understand the market. Lamination should always be offered as an embellishment at a higher value than any coatings. There are coatings in the wind that may change this, but as far as add on value with good profit only spot UV gains the sort of margin that lamination does. Mainly because it is perceived like foiling as a product. But the missing info we need is what quantity of sheets do operations out there see them using either the scuff factor or the embellishment factor.
    Put it this way , we have a tiny laminator at $5000 that laminates one side at say 700 sheets per hour or 5600 sheets per day,laminates 2 sides at once at the same speed, can be set to use 1.2mil high gloss anti curl nylon or basic polypropylene, then change to heavy weight 3 to 10mil polester laminates for menu covers, ID cards etc and recently we've discovered we can create foil effect on it using the toner system of foils. We do not put this into the scuff or "somewhat visual" arena as we don't know where it fits, but at shows down here we sell all we have?
    So yes, I'm going to shut up for a while and hope more members chip in.

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    I'm new here but like to show what we use, as we are in the market to serve other printers for their UV Needs.

    2008 28x40 Sakurai Screen Cylinder Coater, with OLEC dryer and Stacker.
    We run at a average around 2800 sheets per hour.

    YouTube - SAKURAI UV COATER


    Graphic Coatings, Inc
    Santa Fe Springs, Ca

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    OutSourceD
    We have a coater that will lay down a coating on this unit.

    It will coat both UV and Aqueous. I have sold equipment that does both so I am very familar with both coatings and lay down.

    Bizhub 6500 uses a wax instead of a fuser oil and this why having the right coating is important to get a nice smooth finish.

    I can get you more iformation for you. let me know

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    I've looked at UV coaters from Gala Equipment as a solution to UV coat output from Konica Minolta systems. Their coater will work with KM polymerized toner as well as Canon's toner. Any other toner as well as long as it does not have fusing oil.

    The Gala is a well built compact unit with integrated safeties.

    Gala Equipment

    btw.. I don't work for Gala...

    Good Luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OutSourceD View Post
    We are looking for a UV coater that will lay a coat on output from the Bizhub 6500.
    Hand fed UV Coaters Brand new $14000. Auto feed available.
    Can offer additionally 31" x 43" format sized Spot and Flood UV Coaters priced at $130,000 delivered and installed.

    contact:
    GrafAmerica
    856 495 9091
    malahide@comcast.net

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    Default Uv coater

    We are a small print shop an we are loking to buy an inexpesible coater
    for a ryobi 3304 anyone selling one please send me any proposals to alphadsigns@aol.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphadsigns View Post
    We are a small print shop an we are loking to buy an inexpesible coater
    for a ryobi 3304 anyone selling one please send me any proposals to alphadsigns@aol.com
    I have New and Used. The questions is your space available.
    Wich UV Coaters it is important to know the process to get quality UV Coating.
    We offer these services.
    Prices are between 13k - 16k.
    AL's CO UV
    info@alscouv.com

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    Do these offline coaters coat any stock upto 110#?

    What machines are used to apply AQ coating and can this be done offline?

    I only run digital printers, no presses that is why I am asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postnetnc133 View Post
    Do these offline coaters coat any stock upto 110#?

    What machines are used to apply AQ coating and can this be done offline?

    I only run digital printers, no presses that is why I am asking.
    They can actually run 80lb Text weight stock. With this machine you can do UV Coating or AQ Coating. We are a Fluid formulator, so we mix and prepare the UV Coating and the AQ Coating for your specific needs. When you provide us the type of Digital engine you are running, we can specify the right Coating for the application.

    If you would like, you could send me some samples and I will Coat them to you.
    Email me at info@alscouv.com

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhm8hwcm View Post
    I will be in the market soon for an offline UV coater and wanted to see if people out there had any feedback on machines etc.

    A few years ago (3) when I went to Graph Expo there were only a couple of suppliers with coaters and now it seems like everybody has one. Back then it seemed like the long conveyor was important for flow out on the coating and now many conveyors are shorter...or even non existent. Equipment vendors say the coatings have changed so this is not necessary anymore. Companies like Tec Lighting and FMA (some of the originals guys in it) have not done away with their conveyors so is this due to the fact you really do need the long conveyor, or are they just not adapting/keeping up with the times?

    I spoke with a Duplo dealer as well about their machine and it looks quite good but costs quite a bit more.

    I presently do AQ on cards and personally am not a big fan of UV as I prefer the look of gloss AQ. I also need things to be writeable as many people want to be able to write on the cards. I do understand there is some writeable UV coatings as well as less glossy coatings available. I am getting some samples done up.

    Any thoughts.
    Tec Lighting launched new models in April at the On Demand Show. These new models have much shorter footprints (10.5' - 12' including auto feeder). The UV coaters were very well received during the show due to added features such as built-in IR dryer and very affordable prices. Visit Tec Lighting and give me a call at 714-529-5068 to discuss your requirements.

    mannyC


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