Looking for a good offline folder

[CSimpson]

MBO B118 (T460) versus Baum 20.

The Baum is a little wider but both would be wide enough for any application I would need.
I beleive the Baum doesn't require you to lift fold plates to turn them into defelctors. Is this a big deal?
The MBO has 35mm fold rollers I can't find the diameter of Baum's on the web. Does anyone know?

Does anyone have any input on the pluses or minus of either one of these folders? Such as, is one better at handling static, is one easier to set-up for different jobs, does one have a better feeder than the other, is one easier to access and align creasing/slitting wheels?

[ondemandbindery]

MBO B118 (T460) versus Baum 20.

The Baum is a little wider but both would be wide enough for any application I would need.
I beleive the Baum doesn't require you to lift fold plates to turn them into defelctors. Is this a big deal?
The MBO has 35mm fold rollers I can't find the diameter of Baum's on the web. Does anyone know?

Does anyone have any input on the pluses or minus of either one of these folders? Such as, is one better at handling static, is one easier to set-up for different jobs, does one have a better feeder than the other, is one easier to access and align creasing/slitting wheels?

Go with the MBO. Baum is 30mm I am almost sure. Your setup time will not change with shaft diameters but with a large roller 2 things come to the top of my head. Less chance of face cracking if you do some work cross grain and the product will not have as much curl after it is processed. As for the 0-makeready plates, you can get those with an MBO but that just is not a deal breaker. And other things can come up used for the MBO that may not for the Baum (Gatefold, additional units)

Good luck.

[lfelton]

Jumping on the thread, I'm thinking of adding another folder - anyone have experience of a Horizon AFC-566AKT (6 buckles/1 cross knife with 2 buckles)? It seems more automated than a Stahl (for example), but are there any disadvantages?

[Craig]

If this is the same folder I was looking at there was something strange about the cross knife/buckle setup. I think it limited the types of folds out of the 8 page(2 years doesn't seem that long ago, memory is shot!) Take a look at that though. Also I would bet a decent operator could setup a manual folder nearly as fast at the automation and save a LOT of coin. I have done as many as 9 different setups in one day on my Baum 2020 some for as few as a couple dozen sheets. (lots of digital work here)