Creo Rip or Fiery Rip

[zBret]

Can someone tell me what the differences are between these 2 rips, also
which one of these rips work better for VDP.
Thanks

[jb9343]

We used to have a Creo rip with our Xerox. It was strong on color management and imposition. Unfortunately, it seemed to be a finicky rip and very few Xerox people were well trained on it because most customers have Fiery rips. We now have a Fiery rip. The newest version adds a great deal of features. We have the graphic arts package that includes color management and greatly improved imposition. It seems to deliver consistent results and overall we are very happy with it. We did little VDP on either one. Good luck.

[Realwelder]

Fiery is better for color management. Creo works better in a VDP enviroment. Creo is easier to use and generally comes in a very nice all inclusive package (server, monitor, stand, keyboard, mouse, etc). Whereas with Fiery you pay for what you need. I found Fiery is about 25% more with the same features compared to Creo.

If in the future you are considering implementating a workflow please take a look at the workflow components available from EFI and Creo before selecting your RIP as they both have great workflow tools that tie nicely into the RIPs.

[Amer]

We went from Splash to Fiery to Creo with each new Xerox we had.
The Creo is much better (color quality and control, imposition). We don't do much VDP.

[DocuGo!]

Choose CREO!
I am from fiery migrate to CREO, it is a much better RIP.
Faster, and the colour is always great!
Xerox is always push to sell Fiery because they got a good back up from EFI.
CREO doesn't put much technician because it's doesn't have much problem.
when I am with Fiery too much trouble with the RIP so I call xerox all the time.
and I feel bad with the colour problem that I need to adjust everytime.

I also do VDP with CREO, if you are using PDF it will not RIP correctly for big files, you need to use creo language file and it will run fast and smooth.

[werdgot3]

We use the Creo Rip on a BizHub 6500.
We use the Fiery Rip on a BizHub 450.
Creo has the mindset of a Litho/printing mentality. Much more adapt to printing world not just the "copy" world. It works awesome with our color profiles, and Variable Data, etc. Fast machine, easy to adjust color, and do calibrations on each stock as needed. We love the creo as soon as we demo'd it, the very week it was announced.

[michaelejahn]

Hi there,

Not so much at the output side - that is, I think they both do a faily good job sending data to the output device - but i was curious to know before I answer - what VDP system are you using (or considering) ?

That is, describe what workflow and what you actually are 'sending' to the RIP.

MindFire is my favorite --> MindFire: Personalized URLs for Direct Mail Landing Pages.

VDP has many different languages and file formats?

https://www.adobe.com/products/vdp/indepth.html

or are you growing you own (Perl / Ruby ?

The Digital Nirvana » Blog Archive » Programming Languages for VDP

[judyj]

We have a Creo RIP at our shop. We do a good bit of VDP, using DesignMerge and InDesign CS3 -- files seem to process quickly and we have good results. Our color is also very good.

[TRYYZ]

Hi Docugo,

What do you mean "Creo language file"? we fire pdf's at the Creo rip IC304 v2.1 straight from Prinergy 4.1.2.6 and it has a lot of transparency issues, I usually have to go back to the Epson plotter, maybe the "Creo language file" is the answer

Thanks

[rick_cri]

Creo is designed for VDP aplications, has an excelent color management but aplications like imposition, gradations and finishing are most user friendly in Fiery.

Fiery has additional aplications like compose and others that helps you to manage your jobs faster, and also has a best workflow integration.