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    think of all the patents and technologies the new company would have. It would be a killer company.

    now announcing the 2010 heidelroland sm106/800xl

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    last rumor was Heidelberg and agfa

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    Last edited by Neil Meggitt; 09-03-2009 at 10:05 AM.

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    Old news. This "marriage" was discussed ad nauseum last year.

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    Default Heidelberg-Manroland merger in 4-6 weeks?

    A news report today (September 4) from German Reuters says that Allianz (which owns 65% of Manroland and 12% of Heidelberg) is pushing hard for an agreement, and both Heidelberg and Manroland want the merger to go forward.

    Here is a translation of a key passage in the report:

    The discussions could reach their conclusion in the next four to six weeks, two people close to the negotiations told Reuters on Friday. However, the two firms have not agreed which of them should bear what proportion of the probable job cuts.
    Additional material from the Reuters report is at:

    Merger in 4-6 weeks? Sources tell Reuters it could happen

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    Default Heidelberg-Manroland: merger discussions confirmed

    The metalworkers’ union IG Metall, which represents factory workers in both companies, attended a special meeting of the Manroland board of directors on September 1. On the following day, the union went public with the issues it had brought up with the board. The key issue is avoiding the closure of Manroland’s Offenbach factory, which produces sheet-fed presses, in the event of a merger.

    Several German news organizations attended the union’s public event. You can read a translation of some extracts of their reports here:

    Manroland-Heidelberg: the silence is broken and the battle lines are forming

    It is now time to stop calling these discussions a “rumor”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeA View Post

    Several German news organizations attended the union’s public event. You can read a translation of some extracts of their reports here:

    Manroland-Heidelberg: the silence is broken and the battle lines are forming

    It is now time to stop calling these discussions a “rumor”.
    Thanks again George for these updates.

    In my view, the significant aspect of this mess is that the press manufacturing industry could not have winners and losers based on the scientific and innovative abilities of the different parties.

    In this situations, equally unimaginative parties are forced into actions they would not have liked and were powerless to prevent because they could not, no would not look to more innovative ways that come from outside their walls.

    Their love of their own technological history and their repulsion of seeking better science has lead them into a situation where they did not know what to do or what they could do.

    I think history will show this as just another defensive step that the press manufacturing industry, that refused to rethink its role, has taken as it shrinks further into unimportance.

    With these two great stars locked in a downward spiral, forced on them by other interests, it is also a great opportunity for some other press manufacturer to take advantage of the potentials that are available and take some market share. Of course this takes some guts which the other press manufacturers don't seem to have. They too are scared to do anything that they are not used to.

    Inkjets get better each year but offset presses still refine a late 19th century press model. Who deserves to win?
    Last edited by Erik Nikkanen; 09-07-2009 at 08:39 PM.

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    Default Heidelberg/Manroland announcement in 2 weeks?

    A German financial newsletter service, the Platow Brief, is reporting that a merger between Heidelberg and Manroland will be announced in two weeks. The two companies may be waiting until after the German elections (Sept. 27) to make the announcement.

    A few more details are here:

    Manroland/Heidelberg merger announcement in two weeks?

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    I guess the Germans have special interest tentacles into the inner-workings of their government just like we do here in the states. I would bet German labor is going to outraged if this turns out to be true.

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    Why would that be a problem?


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