Hamada B452A Mark II

[Endlessace]

Hi

I’m taking over my father’s small printing business and I was looking for new press to fulfill the consumers’ needs for short run color jobs. I looked at in the Presstek 34DI, then I introduced to Hamada B452 Mark II. I still have much to learn in the industry and don’t really know which one to pick. I’m thinking of going for the Hamada since the cost to buy the machine is much less than the Presstek, and supplies are also cheaper.

I know that make ready time for the Presstek is faster. But what about quality and reliability?

So does anyone have any insight? Any information is greatly appreciated. I’m a veteran and I’m putting all my saving for down payment for one of these machines, so I’m bit nervous.

Thank you in advance,

Sonny

[OffsetGuy@presstechnician.com]

Sonny,

Are you a vet from the USA? If so thank you for the service to our country. The Hamada is one fine machine. The DI is ok but supplies,service etc are only available from one source. A true four color press IMHO is the way to go.

I think DI is dying out as a viable print solution

OG

[printmadd]

First of all - don't listen to offset guy....he's a total tosser & don't buy a hamada you will have nothing but trouble......Ryobi is your best bet on your budget.

[Endlessace]

Thank you buddy. I served with US Army.

[Komori Sales]

I am evaluating the trade-in of a Hamada B452A and would like to know if you would be interested in purchasing the press in place of a new model?

[macman]

hi sonny.
the hamada b452 is a very sturdy press, very reliable and has a quick set up time, also the cip3 feature is pretty good, and gets you upto colour fast. very easy press to run and maintain, i dont think you would regret getting one of these presses...

[Leo Caproni]

Sonny,

I have a customer who had a Hamada B452A Mark II and returned it after about 8 months. The CIP3 feature never worked correctly even though the manufacturer and dealer spent a lot of time working on it. Solids were weak and the density dropped off visibly from gripper to tail of the sheet. My suggestion is that whatever press you are looking at make sure to put it through a battery of print test with your most critical jobs and satisfy yourself that it will work for your applications. Good luck

[and40au]

Hi Sonny,
for god's sake don't listen to OG the hamada is CRAP even though they are now tied up with hasimoto they are just RUBBISH.

[macman]

hey leo.
what company did you deal with on the hamada.....i know some people who have them and they print fine, solids, book covers.....these presses are really good for the money you pay....

Edited by: macman on Jul 18, 2008 4:41 PM

Edited by: macman on Jul 18, 2008 4:41 PM

[Leo Caproni]

Hi Macman,

I would only like to say that the end user who had the Hamada B452 was in the United States and not identify the end-user and dealer to stay away from any legal issues. My story is the honest to god truth and the press was removed after roughly 8 months and replaced unfortunately for me by a Heidelberg SM52. The customer told me that the reason they returned the press was because solids were poor and the CIP3 could only get as accurate as around 80% which a good pressman can achieve anyway without CIP3. The CIP3 should get you 90-95% to color on the first pull if you have the ink and dampening rollers set correctly from my experience with the Ryobi products.